BLAM | Clan of the Angry Monkey (FFXI)

heh..

Submitted by Drifter on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 16:15.

you better have A LOT of storage if ur gonna try to sell everything ah/mule...raising ur lvl like that so fast you will def have storage issues

pre-plan my dear

Submitted by Milotheshort on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 18:46.

i already tackled this logistics problem... what i failed to mention is i have 21 AH slots available with an possible addtional 14... Also i set up the crafting chain to provide the most benifit... i know i was gonna attempt pies, because all blm eat them so they'll sell how fast i'm not sure... i sell stuff at just high enough to re-coup the cost... so i tend to underbid my competitiors... and pie dough and butter are marvoulous things to hold on to... lol i doubt it'll be a problem... we'll see.

Cooking

Submitted by sam on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 13:32.

I think you're going to find cooking gets substantially more difficult past 50. Just a bit of a heads up, since it sounds like you think cooking is going to be a cake walk (hah, I made a funny) from statements like this:

This is not a legitimate craft...

Just wait until you start getting into the dreaded dark crystal territory. Holy crap. Slow, long, boring times where all you do is stare at dark crystals shattering and getting .1 skillups every hour (I may be exaggerating, but it sure felt like that).

Long story short, it starts slowing down considerably past 50... seriously. Don't think this will be easy. It also starts getting quite a bit more expensive, unless you are capable of farming a lot of the high-end things you start to need.

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http://maior.samhart.net/

no offense

Submitted by Milotheshort on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 18:39.

Now i don't intend this to be offensive to you sam... but dark crystals are never an effective way to get skill ups, similarly lightning crystals aren't either. Idealy you skill up only with earth and water crystals, and occassionaly with fire and wind. Unless you didn't know Dark, Light, and Lightning crystals have additional properties and thusly aren't effective in providing primary skill ups. Also i don't know the alignment of your Moghouse, but if you have a majority of Light/ Exp hancing stuff this might be why you seemingly slowly progress. I expect no slow down because, i was pre-pared for this ahead of time... crafting isn't something you do over night nor should it be, just because i hit 100 in a month is not a suggestion to others to rush out and do the same. How is this a craft then too if you can make a shit ton of gil crafting sushi? Stuff you can sell and recoup your cost doesn't happen in other crafts... for instance in GS: a Goldsmither would have to sell his gold rings back at nearly 50,000 to recoup his loss... this won't sell in a managable time. or WW the only reason commodes exist on the market is because of its use to skill up... they sell for 30k a piece and roselumber sells for 120k a stack... it requires 5 pieces of lumber so: thats 10k a board 10k * 5 = 50k - 30k = -20k this is a common tend in WW, CC, LC, SM, GS... so often you have to raise capital before even attempting to get skill ups... i once spent 500k on skillups only to get a wopping ZERO... that then equated to a loss of nearly 500k plus the time invested. I will be honest if i hit a slow down... also cyc -> if you can mass produce sushi for high profits at low lvl there is no need for royal jelly... profit gained goes into buying dragon meat for 100 Red Curry... at that point you can attempt to sell it of toss it... the goal is to hit 100 cook not a bajillion gill.

Umm...

Submitted by cyclonus on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 20:10.

also cyc -> if you can mass produce sushi for high profits at low lvl there is no need for royal jelly... profit gained goes into buying dragon meat for 100 Red Curry... at that point you can attempt to sell it of toss it... the goal is to hit 100 cook not a bajillion gill

You have taken what I said out of context . A few things:

1) I view cooking as an augment to fishing; Also, although sushi can be made a "low-level" (starting at 60?) it doesn't mean it is profitable. Sushi is really only profitable if you HQ (31 tier) or fish or your own fish...

Since you seem to be under the impression that the longer it takes to level a craft, the better it must be - try fishing (IMO fishing is a hobby / mini-game, listed as a craft, but w/e).

2) I *never* said it was *your* goal to make a "bajilion" gil, I was just merely making a point about *my* crafting habits.

3) For *me* crafting never has and never will be my money maker and to each his own.

Good luck en route to 100 GS - that's a long hard road.

Side note: Ghetto version of the Sha'ir Manteel ftw!

bah

Submitted by Milotheshort on Thu, 04/20/2006 - 01:55.

And you sir have miss understood me... there are a number of factors in which i judge the difficulty of a craft.

1. relitive time it takes to get skill ups...
2. Cost of goods associated to each skill up
3. Number of Support crafts needed to gain maximum crafting...

Thank you tho, i do know that GS will be a difficult undertaking, hence the effort to create 2 cash cows ...

Here's how i rank crafts and why: from most difficult to least...
1. GS -> materials to produce stackable goods aren't themselves stackable, often the Ingots sell for more than the final goods, most goods are equipment and have slower re-sell rates
2. Smithing _> see goldsmithing just a little cheaper
3. Bone/WW -> these are tied for 3rd, bone often requires huge amounts of farming, where wood requires nearly 60 in all other crafts
4. LW
5. CC
6. FISHING
7. COOKING

Okay

Submitted by cyclonus on Thu, 04/20/2006 - 03:13.

w/e floats your boat. Good luck! :-)

Unless it's changed...

Submitted by sam on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 19:02.

Unless cooking has changed since I leveled it up, there's a long stretch of nothing but Dark Crystal synths sometime after 50.

Granted, it's been a while since I was at that level... they've added patisirie (sp?) and sushi since then. There may be better alternatives.

At any rate, all of the crafts slow down past 50-60 or so, and the synths become fewer and farther between. So I still wouldn't expect to wrap up 100 in a week (unless you played like mad).

Vis Maior's Journeys
http://maior.samhart.net/

no

Submitted by Milotheshort on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 19:08.

i'm hardly a savant... the goal is still a month, besides i have to go to the doctor for x-rays to see if i have phemonia... blah so i doubt i'd have the physical time to pull it off... I was just stating the easy of it thus far... It isn't near as slow as other crafts, which might explain the appeal to some ppl typically the ppl that want 75 in less than a month or something. Can I have it? ADHD? Yes Please! You can have this-> Plvl super NUB.

Two words...

Submitted by cyclonus on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 13:57.

Royal Jelly; Tam would be in a better position to comment than I

Although cooking may not make a one shot, twenty-four bajillion gil item, it makes up for it in volume. Plus ingredients are dirt cheap so COGS is very low; if you fish and make sushi â€“ 600% profit and fast sales are pretty sweet.

But yeah, with cooking, I will never be able to say "Oh I made < blah > armor (which kind of sucks). All I can make if the FFXI equivalent of crack...

Royal Jelly

Submitted by Tamara on Thu, 04/20/2006 - 19:57.

I never cooked anything with Royal Jelly but I am only level 99 Cooking so what do I know! LOL!

I hear the recipe I used to skill-up with, Tavnazian Taco, has been gutted as a skill-up recipe since I utilized it. I skilled up on a lot of stuff post level 60 which did not sell at AH, that's what I remember. That and 'pies are your friend' for skill-ups.

Another thing I observed is that seven or eight ingredient recipes give better skill-ups than two or three item recipes.

Oh yeah

Submitted by sam on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 14:25.

Well once you can make things like sushi and what not, you can really start pulling in dough. Don't get me wrong, I love cooking, it's my craft of choice :-)

I was just trying to tell Milo it isn't quite as easy as he thought it might be to get it to 100.

Vis Maior's Journeys
http://maior.samhart.net/

Blah

Submitted by cyclonus on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 14:49.

Same. Just posted under wrong comment.

Nice

Submitted by Piskowit on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 12:03.

Real craft or not, it's all I have so far. And my skill is at an astounding...17 (and that is my highest craft skill >_<). It's not that I don't have the money, I mean everything I can make would net me a loss of....well almost nothing, regardless of failure/HQ rates and what not.

The problem is that I can never get in the mood to craft. For me and my small amount of storage space, it was always a hastle to even begin a day of crafting. I usually find something else to do before I get to my moghouse and unload my gear, and stock up on supplies. Plus, I have the attention span of a fish...and can't seem to stay focused for very long.

I would think this is an ideal first craft skill to learn simply because of the amount of Gil required to master it. It can help you with the funding for your next skill, whatever that may be.

next on the docket

Submitted by Milotheshort on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 08:39.

milo attains 100+ goldsmithing coming to a bastok near you! after i hit 100 cooking i have decided to be charitable and open my services to ne ls member who might need them. Likewise my WW and shortly my GS will be available to for a fee... srry. WW and GS are dedicated crafts the fee will of course be subject to change without prior notice... however it'll most likely be:
Furnishings 10%
NQ goods - free of charge ls members, 1% non-lsmembers
HQ goods - 5% ls members, 10% non-ls members (for certain goods an additional 5% service few might apply see me for detail)
Stackable goods - synth'd as is.

i'll let you know when i'm opening my services to the public... like always i'll be providing my expertise, not the goods... the percentage is dictated by the AVERAGE current market value... so if all power bows +1 avrg to about 100,000k a piece my fee would be 10,000 to non-lsers and 5,000 to lsers... this is payable upon completion of the crafting session etc... i'll post it when the time is ready... stay tuned.

to clarify

Submitted by Milotheshort on Wed, 04/19/2006 - 18:42.

cooking will be free results will be as is